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#811 Denran

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 10:54 AM

 

Well I guess we can't blame her. I mean why go the extra mile if she's not going to get any fulfillment from it? Anyone of us would do the same.

 

True I guess, but not when you call yourself a perfectionist every minute of the day :bsmoke:



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:00 AM

 

Well I guess we can't blame her. I mean why go the extra mile if she's not going to get any fulfillment from it? Anyone of us would do the same.

 

I've come to realize this. It's up to each one to decide if that's enough for you.



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:05 AM

 

True I guess, but not when you call yourself a perfectionist every minute of the day :bsmoke:

 

Hahaha I almost forgot about it. She still says that? 



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:21 AM

Y'all doing too much 

 

she doesn't take the entire day to record or to rehearse because of the children but we can still feel she loves music 



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:22 AM

 

Well I guess we can't blame her. I mean why go the extra mile if she's not going to get any fulfillment from it? Anyone of us would do the same.

 

 

While you discuss and kind of patronising her about her career. The third world country born megastar who has achieved more than anyone could imagine and its been succesful globally since fifteen years ago. Having two of biggest hits of the past 20 years worlwide and many of the biggest hits in the latin market in the past two decade is still compeeting with youngers popstars and is the fifth peron in the world with more views in youtube....  While you discuss if she can sing or not.... she .."va caminando en un mar de hojas secas, vuelan los angeles sobre berlin van entonando junto a ella un aleluya mientras la lluvia cae dentro de vosotros."

 

 

I am ok with you saying i dont like that song... wasnt her best performance, id like her to dance more... there is a line between critizising her and making arrogant judgments... "taking singing lessons" im stil shocked

 

AND I WANT ALL THE REAL FANS (which means fanatic :))  TO STAND UP AND FIGHT BACK ALL THiS COMMENTS   

 

We have a Kaleshi  so lets be her Dragons...


Edited by escalestri, 17 May 2017 - 11:24 AM.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:32 AM

The song is #2 on iTunes japan lol

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:49 AM

 

 

While you discuss and kind of patronising her about her career. The third world country born megastar who has achieved more than anyone could imagine and its been succesful globally since fifteen years ago. Having two of biggest hits of the past 20 years worlwide and many of the biggest hits in the latin market in the past two decade is still compeeting with youngers popstars and is the fifth peron in the world with more views in youtube....  While you discuss if she can sing or not.... she .."va caminando en un mar de hojas secas, vuelan los angeles sobre berlin van entonando junto a ella un aleluya mientras la lluvia cae dentro de vosotros."

 

 

I am ok with you saying i dont like that song... wasnt her best performance, id like her to dance more... there is a line between critizising her and making arrogant judgments... "taking singing lessons" im stil shocked

 

AND I WANT ALL THE REAL FANS (which means fanatic :))  TO STAND UP AND FIGHT BACK ALL THiS COMMENTS   

 

We have a Kaleshi  so lets be her Dragons...

 

Hey, if she changes my mind after the album that will be step one. And if she then does 100% on tour, then I will believe in her again.

 

She hasn't delivered her best in YEARS. I respect what she has done, but I can't drool over Whenever, Wherever forever. 

 

And I am sorry if I lost my passion for her, but it's because she seems to have lost passion for music. I would like to believe that's not true, but there is no evidence to prove me wrong as of now. Maybe El Dorado will blow my mind and by all means I hope it does, but until then I reflect on what we have received in recent years.

 

I cannot be a super fan of something that is not as good as it used to be. 

 

No one is making arrogant judgement. I happen to be talented for music and I can hear when singing is or isn't good. And why is taking singing lessons an offense? 

 

Being a fanatic is a much greater insult, as believing blindly in something without room for objectivity is a serious character flaw.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:51 AM

Okay. Like Mariah and Yonce take vocal lessons.

Or put in simple terms, MD's, veterinarians, dentists, dermatologists continue going to school or attend yearly workshops to continue their education.

So just because you're a singer and became one two decades ago doesn't mean that you can't take a vocal lesson here and there. You know... to improve technique and so on.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:51 AM

I love the emerge of new members each era :love:

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:00 PM

A perfectionist is not a person who always delivers perfect results. It's actually the opposite. Perfectionists constantly question themselves and often fail to finish a job in time because they feel their work is not good enough. They also tend to scrap entire projects to start from scratch. Shakira fits this description perfectly.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:03 PM

The song is #2 on iTunes japan lol


Probably because of that nintendo like sound.

But good for her!!

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:04 PM

Y'all doing too much 
 
she doesn't take the entire day to record or to rehearse because of the children but we can still feel she loves music 


She hasn't performed in years. She must have been nervous af. All she needs is a little more practice. We all know she's a natural performer.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:17 PM

A perfectionist is not a person who always delivers perfect results. It's actually the opposite. Perfectionists constantly question themselves and often fail to finish a job in time because they feel their work is not good enough. They also tend to scrap entire projects to start from scratch. Shakira fits this description perfectly.

But when they do, it is always perfect. Hence the term perfectionist.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:54 PM

Mess at all this analysis generated from an informal event meant for a couple of hot shot executives & TV personalities. I'm not surprised since the same thing happened when she did that random free T-Mobile concert but jesus christ this is so extra lmao. I mean, there's definitely valid criticism to be made due to the standards and expectations we've set on Shakira but do y'all seriously expect her to go all out on these type of events that aren't even broadcasted ??? lol  Don't see what more we can take from this event other than Shakira performed two songs as a formality to a TV station and in return was able to promote her upcoming album...



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 01:24 PM

Mess at all this analysis generated from an informal event meant for a couple of hot shot executives & TV personalities. I'm not surprised since the same thing happened when she did that random free T-Mobile concert but jesus christ this is so extra lmao. I mean, there's definitely valid criticism to be made due to the standards and expectations we've set on Shakira but do y'all seriously expect her to go all out on these type of events that aren't even broadcasted ??? lol  Don't see what more we can take from this event other than Shakira performed two songs as a formality to a TV station and in return was able to promote her upcoming album...

 

Yes, I just want to say people in this forum get frustrated so easyly..if you dont like new Shakira its ok, I actually dont like everything she does but i believe she have something special and unique i can percieve in many of the things she delivers. To be a fan is to enjoy not to suffer. It seems to me childish an arrogant to blame her for the things you dont like...  Jut enjoy  her success, critisize her in a funny way and definitely dance to her songs :)  but please better energy more lightness and less negativity



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 01:27 PM

 

Hey, if she changes my mind after the album that will be step one. And if she then does 100% on tour, then I will believe in her again.

 

She hasn't delivered her best in YEARS. I respect what she has done, but I can't drool over Whenever, Wherever forever. 

 

And I am sorry if I lost my passion for her, but it's because she seems to have lost passion for music. I would like to believe that's not true, but there is no evidence to prove me wrong as of now. Maybe El Dorado will blow my mind and by all means I hope it does, but until then I reflect on what we have received in recent years.

 

I cannot be a super fan of something that is not as good as it used to be. 

 

No one is making arrogant judgement. I happen to be talented for music and I can hear when singing is or isn't good. And why is taking singing lessons an offense? 

 

Being a fanatic is a much greater insult, as believing blindly in something without room for objectivity is a serious character flaw.

 

 

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 01:29 PM

I love the emerge of new members each era :love:

 here We come :)



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 02:03 PM

 

Yes, I just want to say people in this forum get frustrated so easyly..if you dont like new Shakira its ok, I actually dont like everything she does but i believe she have something special and unique i can percieve in many of the things she delivers. To be a fan is to enjoy not to suffer. It seems to me childish an arrogant to blame her for the things you dont like...  Jut enjoy  her success, critisize her in a funny way and definitely dance to her songs :)  but please better energy more lightness and less negativity

Fans have a right to criticize things that are made for public consumption like songs, albums, artistic direction, tours etc. (you're paying for them after all). But lately there's been a lot of unnecessary and premature criticism towards pretty much anything and everything related to Shakira that is so petty imo. But each to their own I guess, we can't stop people from giving their opinion. 



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 02:17 PM

Probably because of that nintendo like sound.
But good for her!!


Ahahahahhahah @nintendo sound :)))

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 02:28 PM

Queen of Japan, coming for Ariana Grande's throne!

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 03:42 PM

Everybody can say whatever They want. It's a forum and We discuss about several topics. And sorry I'm not the kind of fan who clap and approve everything Shakira does. Honestly I lost my passion for Shakira since Sale El Sol era, but I'm still here because I do know She can do it better cuz We've SEEN HER doing it better.

So. If some members in this forum can't tolerate the criticism, You better DEAL with it. Cuz I'm not going to restrain myself to please some weeping and sensitive fans.


Amen.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 03:48 PM

 
Voice is one thing, singing the right notes is a different one. 



Blah blah blah

Whatever you say Christina Aguilera

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:25 PM

Blah blah blah

Whatever you say Christina Aguilera

 

I wish! :D


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 08:35 PM

I love the emerge of new members each era :love:

Some of us are actually old members who just decided to register now.
I remember you used to stan hard for Britney Spears.
I remember KTos the guy who used to update us with Waka Waka iTunes position.
And before you became the go to shakira disser, there used to be a French guy Pierre.
I have been following this thread since 2009 .

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 08:23 AM

How Long until she decides to think more.about the fans and not.just her? I mean. Enough of.working with de la iguana. I would like to see her experimenting with different video directors. Just like in the laundry service era !!!

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Posted 20 May 2017 - 02:19 PM

I want to hate Shakira so much but she fucking delivered!

It might just be me but hearing Shakira since last August everywhere I go has been unavoidable. No matter where I go Shakira is there...starting with when I lived in NYC for 3 months & La Bicicleta was everywhere there. And she's been on a roll since then,

Just preordered her album (which I've never done BTW because I always buy her physicals) based on the past year full of amazing songs (even Deja Vú convinced me tho I HATE bachata).
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Posted 20 May 2017 - 06:18 PM

But when they do, it is always perfect. Hence the term perfectionist.

Perfectionism refers to process, not results.

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Posted 20 May 2017 - 10:38 PM

Perfectionism refers to process, not results.

Can you read? I didn't say perfectionism, I said perfectionist. A person who refuses to accept any kind of result short of perfect.

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 01:21 AM

Can you read? I didn't say perfectionism, I said perfectionist. A person who refuses to accept any kind of result short of perfect.


perfection is based on the person's standards. shakira might've found this album perfect considering her situation of being a mommy.

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 02:39 AM

perfection is based on the person's standards. shakira might've found this album perfect considering her situation of being a mommy.

Perfection can not be based on a person's standard.By your interpretation then everyone is perfect even people with very low standards. Every song on the radio Now is perfect, every singer from kesha to Justin Bieber is Perfect because given their situation and being single they found their current songs perfect. Let me not hear you call any song playing on the radio Now a generic junk ,because they are all perfect.





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